Comments on: Is it possible to convert from a Non-brahmin to Brahmin? http://www.yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/ Stretch your mind and body Mon, 21 May 2012 17:35:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Poondi B http://www.yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/comment-page-1/#comment-791 Poondi B Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:53:18 +0000 http://yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/#comment-791 In law, caste system applies to some reservation in education and Govt appointment only. If a forward class (Brahmin, Saiva Pillai etc) caste person marries a backward (BC, MBC, OBC etc) class person there may be conflict in deciding the reservations for the offsprings. Otherwise there could be no bar in the inter caste marriage.. You asked if the caste conversion was possible. Suppose a catholic marries a protestant, does either of the community accept the couple as their follower? The ones who do not care for such acknowledgement by the church would venture into the wedlock. Suppose a labbai (a muslim community considered lower in status) individual marries a Syed community (superior muslim), again the conflict will arise in the superior community in accepting the wedlock. But these mundane laws are of no avail to the divine. Saint Viswamithra was accepted as Brahma Rishi after much effort by the Vasishta Maharishi (not the other way as an answer here depicts). The challenge was that a kshathriya or warrior can not follow the rigid austerities of a Brahmin yogi to attain the high status (having been given to sensuous enjoyments that could pull down the equanimity of the aspirant anytime - from the austerities). But the great Viswamithra succeeded in the task and earned the title of Brahma Rishi. Lastly, the true brahmin is not born but "made" according to several passages in Mahabharatha. The claim to brahmin hood by mere birth as followed now has no merit in essence. Read the book (Enge Brahmanan? where is brahmin), a tamil novel by popular writer CHO Ramasamy, where he explains with authority that no brahmin exists this day except Vaisyas or merchants as every brahmin now goes to job rather than practice austerities laid down for his community. Perhaps we may call the saints - of all castes - who spend full time in spiritual pursuits, as brahmins. In law, caste system applies to some reservation in education and Govt appointment only. If a forward class (Brahmin, Saiva Pillai etc) caste person marries a backward (BC, MBC, OBC etc) class person there may be conflict in deciding the reservations for the offsprings. Otherwise there could be no bar in the inter caste marriage..

You asked if the caste conversion was possible. Suppose a catholic marries a protestant, does either of the community accept the couple as their follower? The ones who do not care for such acknowledgement by the church would venture into the wedlock. Suppose a labbai (a muslim community considered lower in status) individual marries a Syed community (superior muslim), again the conflict will arise in the superior community in accepting the wedlock.

But these mundane laws are of no avail to the divine. Saint Viswamithra was accepted as Brahma Rishi after much effort by the Vasishta Maharishi (not the other way as an answer here depicts). The challenge was that a kshathriya or warrior can not follow the rigid austerities of a Brahmin yogi to attain the high status (having been given to sensuous enjoyments that could pull down the equanimity of the aspirant anytime - from the austerities). But the great Viswamithra succeeded in the task and earned the title of Brahma Rishi.

Lastly, the true brahmin is not born but “made” according to several passages in Mahabharatha. The claim to brahmin hood by mere birth as followed now has no merit in essence. Read the book (Enge Brahmanan? where is brahmin), a tamil novel by popular writer CHO Ramasamy, where he explains with authority that no brahmin exists this day except Vaisyas or merchants as every brahmin now goes to job rather than practice austerities laid down for his community. Perhaps we may call the saints - of all castes - who spend full time in spiritual pursuits, as brahmins.

]]> By: Ravi S http://www.yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/comment-page-1/#comment-790 Ravi S Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:40:41 +0000 http://yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/#comment-790 Brahmin is born out of birth not by making. I do not think by marrying you he can become a brahmin. Rather you will be identified with his caste after marriage. Saiva Pillai is anyway uppercaste in dravidian culture as Brahmin in Aryan Culture. We are looking at two different caste but of similar nature. Happy married life. Brahmin is born out of birth not by making. I do not think by marrying you he can become a brahmin. Rather you will be identified with his caste after marriage.

Saiva Pillai is anyway uppercaste in dravidian culture as Brahmin in Aryan Culture. We are looking at two different caste but of similar nature.

Happy married life.

]]> By: Rob http://www.yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/comment-page-1/#comment-789 Rob Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:24:59 +0000 http://yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/#comment-789 You would be allowed to do so in Quebec, Canada. A man could carry a woman's family name if he wanted to. You would be allowed to do so in Quebec, Canada. A man could carry a woman’s family name if he wanted to.

]]> By: lightcommastix http://www.yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/comment-page-1/#comment-788 lightcommastix Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:46:37 +0000 http://yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/#comment-788 I was under the impression that one was born a Brahmin, and that one could trade down but never up. I believe you'll trade down to his level instead of him rising to yours. You and your children will be at his level. If you truly want to marry him, why does it matter? I thought the caste system had been outlawed for years, anyway?! I was under the impression that one was born a Brahmin, and that one could trade down but never up.

I believe you’ll trade down to his level instead of him rising to yours. You and your children will be at his level.

If you truly want to marry him, why does it matter?

I thought the caste system had been outlawed for years, anyway?!

]]> By: Jewel D http://www.yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/comment-page-1/#comment-787 Jewel D Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:20:49 +0000 http://yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/#comment-787 I thought Brahmin were cattle. I thought Brahmin were cattle.

]]> By: Nandakumar N http://www.yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/comment-page-1/#comment-786 Nandakumar N Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:14:02 +0000 http://yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/#comment-786 Can you clarify what is a legal Brahmin and an illegal brahmin, then I can answer. Can you clarify what is a legal Brahmin and an illegal brahmin, then I can answer.

]]> By: Spirea http://www.yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/comment-page-1/#comment-785 Spirea Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:57:53 +0000 http://yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/#comment-785 what the heck i hate this caste System.Who ever stared that i hate that person. what the heck i hate this caste System.Who ever stared that i hate that person.

]]> By: Chatty82 http://www.yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/comment-page-1/#comment-784 Chatty82 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:15:30 +0000 http://yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/#comment-784 These people are crazy. The caste system was abolished in 1947. Even if you come from the lowest castes, you can start your own family and improve your lot. These people are crazy. The caste system was abolished in 1947. Even if you come from the lowest castes, you can start your own family and improve your lot.

]]> By: toknowmore http://www.yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/comment-page-1/#comment-783 toknowmore Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:48:06 +0000 http://yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/#comment-783 A Brahmin girl by marrying a Non-Brahmin boy, becomes Non-brahmin. As per our Custom any girl marrying a boy gets into his gothram, likewise she goes into his kulam(caste) Hence there is no question of converting him as Brahmin. good luck A Brahmin girl by marrying a Non-Brahmin boy, becomes Non-brahmin.
As per our Custom any girl marrying a boy gets into his gothram, likewise she goes into his kulam(caste)
Hence there is no question of converting him as Brahmin.

good luck

]]> By: jenbeckpdx http://www.yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/comment-page-1/#comment-782 jenbeckpdx Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:56:37 +0000 http://yogaican.com/iyengar/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-a-non-brahmin-to-brahmin/#comment-782 chant and be happy! eat a sattvic diet! devote your life to study and charity! haribol! chant and be happy!

eat a sattvic diet!

devote your life to study and charity!

haribol!

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